Discussion GPL discussion tx

Discussion in 'Switch - Backup Loaders & Modchips' started by kamesenin888, Jul 12, 2018.

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  1. Yes, GPL is important and tx should be prosecuted and die

    5 vote(s)
    7.1%
  2. No, GPL is bogus for a piracy product and I couldn't care less

    38 vote(s)
    54.3%
  3. Yes, GPL is important and tx should deliver their source code to abide to the law

    30 vote(s)
    42.9%
  4. No, TX should not have to adhere to the GPLv2 license by releasing their source code

    8 vote(s)
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  1. kamesenin888
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    kamesenin888 GBAtemp Maniac

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    This is a thread for all the people that can't resist to talk about GPL breach in other tx os threads, I really couldnt care less about GPL but its helpful to have it


    Some information about how a gpl is breached

    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html

    Quoting Draxzelex

    We have evidence that the easter egg of the hbloader was copied in 1.2 but there is no further analysis about what else is copied, only was mentioned about an old hbloader that was used
     
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  3. Draxzelex

    Draxzelex GBAtemp Psycho!

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    Allow me to start. *clears throat* It breached the GPL license. End of story.

    Breaching GPL =/= can't buy/use SX OS. You cannot argue the facts. You can only discuss what people will do with them. And the point is they shouldn't affect what you do afterwards.
     
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  4. zaku

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    I'm an ethical pirate. I pirate Nintendo games but get mad when someone don't respect GPL license.
     
  5. souler92

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    there is literally nothing ethical about it...
     
  6. cearp

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    I think he's joking :)
     
  7. kamesenin888
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    I dont think there is evidence except what hekxys has said, there is not an analysis of what is copied, except the easter egg, and that they say that is an old version of the hbloader
     
  8. ItsKipz

    ItsKipz l33t hax0r

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    Let's just get the facts out of the way - TX broke the GPL license. What that means is up to you, but the fact still stands.
     
  9. sj33

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    Neither of these options represent the reality of the situation. The two options are just two extremes which nobody is proposing, and it sounds like you don't really understand what the controversy is about.

    The code is licensed under GPLv2. This means that TX are allowed to use the code for commercial purposes, they just have to open source their derivative terms under the same terms. Anybody saying that TX aren't allowed to sell a produce using GPL code is incorrect, GPL explicitly allows for commercial usage - there are non-commercial permissive open source licenses, GPL is not one of them. They merely have to release their own source code as per the GPL.

    Nobody is saying that SX should 'die' or that TX should be 'prosecuted', merely that their code adheres to the license.
     
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  10. kamesenin888
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    So what do you suggest? the options are there to be altered
     
  11. sj33

    sj33 GBAtemp Psycho!

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    "Team Xecuter should have to adhere to the GPLv2 license by releasing the source code for their derivative work"

    Or.

    "Team Xecuter should not have to adhere to the GPLv2 license by releasing the source code for their derivative work"
     
  12. smf

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    They probably violated the GPL license. We don't know what extent they did as they may have started out by copying the code completely and then rewritten it just leaving the text strings that were left. I'm not sure the text strings would be covered as a copyright violation. It's also possible they didn't change anything and they willfully violated GPL and don't care.

    Ultimately they have bigger legal issues than a GPL violation, which would only ever be a civil case.

    The DMCA/EUCD/etc violations are criminal.
     
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  13. nero99

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    Why do people care so much? Does this affect your life in any way at all? No! is it stopping the development of Atmosphere? No! I know almost all of the people complaining about TX "stealing" code, use cfw for piracy. I wish mods would start banning people who keep making threads like this.
     
  14. kamesenin888
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    Added 2 new options and a maximum of 2 options per person, so you have the option to choose the originals
     
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    If anyone feels like they have a very good understanding of the GPL thing and the history of it please pm me
     
  16. kamesenin888
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    If you get more information I will add it to the OP so the information is there for everyone
     
  17. subcon959

    subcon959 teh retro

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    Ugh. The solution was to move any such arguments out of this subforum. Not create another thread for it.

    The forum name is not Backup Loaders and GPL Discussions.
     
  18. tech3475

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    Actually, if they improved any GPL code, Atmosphere could benefit from it.

    That’s one reason why people care about GPL violations since any improvements could help the project they got the source from.
     
  19. c80

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    GPL, not GPL license. The L in GPL stands for license. The way you wrote it, it means General Public License license, which is obviously wrong.
     
  20. Priyam

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    It's sarcasm
     
  21. DeuX

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    Since when do Chinese company’s respect copyright and GPL? They would copy the Statue of Liberty if they needed... with that said, I don’t really care that they didn’t respect GPL
     
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