Nintendo Switch "Cartridge Backup/Backup Loader" Discussion

Discussion in 'Switch - Backup Loaders & Modchips' started by LightOffPro, May 2, 2018.

  1. SnAQ

    SnAQ GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    It's still piracy, stop trying to defend your pirating.

    If someone dumps a game and you download it and play it, it's piracy and the developers misses out on that sale.
    I don't really give a fuck about stores missing out on a sale because fuck them.
    But the developers are entitled to their money.

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  2. SnAQ

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    Sorry to burst your little bubble, but if you can't afford, then it doesn't make it on to pirate it instead.

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  3. fixingmytoys

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    Umm they have all ready been paid,
     
  4. Shadow#1

    Shadow#1 Wii & 3DS Softmod Expert

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    If I didn't have the money in the first place and pirate it the developer has not lost any money now if I pirated to sell then the developer has lost money
     
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  5. fixingmytoys

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    Also they don't miss out on a sale they miss out on a potential sale ,2 different things, ie if ONLY 100 games are made and that's the only amount , and all 100 are sold no money has been lost developers have been paid before it hits the shops - so that cuts them out of the equation, the game company puts there mark up on the game ie what they want to make on it, sells it to the shops , the shops then sells all 100 copy's the developers are not getting anymore money they have been paid all ready, the company has put there mark up on it to cover what it cost them to pay the developers plus a little bit more to make some money on top it and that is the price they sell it to the shop, now the shop puts it's mark up to cover the cost of selling it and make a little bit on top as well , now the developers got paid a long time ago ie before it hits the shops and most likely working on the next game.

    so the line of "developers misses out on that sale" "But the developers are entitled to their money" is bull dust , they the game company loss a potential sale not a real , not the developers who wrote the code and if they only have x amount of switch games for sale they cant sell Y amount if they stopped at x amount ,

    that why i look at it as cloning making a copy the original is still there still been sold , not trying to defend any thing if a pirate came along and did a raid on your ship they take away your items ,so you don't have them any more , i don't think jack sparrow turns up with a 3d printer and clones stuff, lol

    even at one stage it was piracy to record TV on a VCR you got at the shops , ,
    At the end of the day it will happen it all ways dose and all ways will ,my old man use to do it with reel to reel tapes tapping records, mankind always finds a way
     
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  6. Samus20XX

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    My 0.02$

    If you pirate a game to try it out, but don't like it, das coo. Just a pirate getting by. It's like a trial. No sales lost really.

    But if you pirate a game, really love it, clock in 20+ hours, and 100% it, and then buy it to support the devs, that's also cool. Super cool actually.

    But if you do the above with no intentions on buying the game, you're a fucking thief. It's no better than stealing food from a grocery store. Some of these studios have worked tirelessly to support their dream and you're shitting on all of their hard work.

    Support good games.
     
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  7. Shadow#1

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    U can't clone food
     
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  9. SnAQ

    SnAQ GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    I know what you mean, but you're wrong.
    It's fine, be a filthy cheap pirate if you feel like it but don't try to convince others with your idiotic theory.

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  10. fixingmytoys

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    OMG You’re too easy I knew you would bite, it’s all good relax
     
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  11. cortatore

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    I'm playing pirated games since Spectrum (newbies can look on Wikipedia).

    I was also an indie game developer back on 2010... (mobile mostly) and learned some things about this industry. And the first mantra is... studios spend more money in marketing than actually developing the game. So you are not hurting anyone pirating a game. It's actually another marketing campaign so if you like it will recommend to a friend or something like that and maybe this pirated game comes to new buyers and the most useful piece of home-brew is piracy btw. If anyone does usage stats it's clearly a winner so I don't understand any criticism to it.

    It's like viewing porn... everybody does but nobody really admits it.

    An applause to TX. They achieved a great product without noise, in record time and the people actually want to buy and use. This is great.
    Another applause to Reswitched but... they are slower... they don't boot to Horizon yet and TX clearly does. And they don't admit that the people are really waiting his product to play backups.
     
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  12. SnAQ

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    That's another funny thing with ReSwitched and their stance against piracy...
    They KNOW that their product will lead to piracy, so one could say that they themselves enables piracy, which they say their against...
    Yeah, it's ridiculous to even state that you are against piracy and meanwhile develop a application which in time will lead to piracy.

    @SciresM what's your thoughts on this?

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  13. nmkd

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    You know it's a good thread when the 1st page has 40 deleted posts lol.

    That said, I will personally use piracy mostly as game demos.

    There are countless games I first pirated to try them and bought later. I don't think I've played any cracked game more than 5 or 10h. Factorio, Enter the Gungeon, Dead Cells, Portal 2, those are all examples where I just pirated to try the games and later bought them.
     
  14. DaveLister

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    I personally draw the line at profiting (Selling on the downloads) all else is one big giant "Computer Club" copy meet, fap session. Thanks GBAtemp!. NG's Torrents, FTP, http leech sites i love you all .
     
  15. fixingmytoys

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    So true so true the developers are the small fry just like recording artists are, what I find funny is how people’s perceptions can be swayed by marketing and be so hard core all most Zeslt like in there conviction.but yet so close to that gray line they have a open system but doing this or that is a no no , yes I know using it for home brew, but it is all home brew of some type, and I find the that is the best part of a system been opened
     
  16. lukhart

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    A lot of times the creator's intent for making a tool isn't followed by it's users. Just because people deviate the use of the tool from the creator's intent doesn't mean that he's entirely responsible for it. History has a lot of examples.

    Same thing for me. It's shameful that most companies don't let their consumers try their games (like 30min or 1h most) to know what exactly we're putting our money in. And before someone say, no, I don't believe that "watching" gameplay videos gives the same sense of playing a game. Also, my country doesn't provide a system to trade or sell used games to the retailer.
     
  17. martyjake

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    I have an income, I just find it hard to save enough to afford a game. Something always comes wheter like a medical issue or a car issue that wipes out my savings. I'm hoping to get promoted soon and actually afford the things I want.

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  18. cortatore

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    If the games were like 2$ not a problem if the game is real shit. When the games costs about 60$... well... it's really an expensive shit.

    Piracy always existed and let's face it... probably Nintendo will sell more consoles thanks to TX. And are doing nice things like "labo" where it's easy to buy it rather to pirate it.
     
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  19. Samus20XX

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    You actually can (:

    And way to miss the entire point of the post. I see you are part of the problem.
     
  20. Noizetank

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    What happens if your switch breaks and you buy a replacement, is it like the Wii/Wii U where your games are only on that 1st console and you have to buy them again?
    If thats the case then a back up loader will be needed, why pay twice for the same thing.
     
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  22. Shadow#1

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    Ok I'm give u a loaf of baked bread and I want to see u clone it
     
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