Torn Between 4.1 and 5.1

Discussion in 'Switch - Exploits, Custom Firmwares & Soft Mods' started by Harvin26, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. InsaneNutter

    InsaneNutter GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    The only reason for not updating now is the possibility of getting in to RCM mode from your sysnand. If you want a completely clean sysnand for online play then you'd have to update regardless.

    I'm in a similar situation to you, on 4.1 and i'd like to do everything on one Switch without risking getting banned from online play.

    At some point I will probably update from 4.1 and enjoy using my Switch as normal. If I want hacks I can boot in to an Emunand with no network settings and keep that totally offline, having the best of both worlds.

    As you say no reason to update yet as no games require greater than 4.1, so i'm holding out for now. Eventually I will most likely update, however for now i'm keeping my options open just to see what happens.
     
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  2. Zumoly

    Zumoly GBATemp Analyst

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    If you do not update now you will miss on the newer game titles to come. See how games that require 4.1 don't run on 3.x? How those that require 3.x won't run on 1.0.0? Even if you're only interested in TX backup loader, at some point some game carts will start require update to the most recent FWs.
    Get on board while there is still time before Nintendo releases another software update and update your games, get your DLC and some free demos!
     
  3. baretbh

    baretbh GBAtemp Regular

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    It was hard for me to upgrade as well. I've noticed though lately, most people are making the jump just due to the fact that most of the recent homebrew is working better on later firmwares. Not to mention, you can still use the e-shop etc :) Ultimately, your call. I would advice doing it. Especially now that hekate sleep mode is working flawlessly :)
     
  4. annson24

    annson24 The Patient One

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    This is exactly my dilemma 2 months ago when I first bought my Switch. It was on v2.3.0 back then and it came bundled with BotW. Unfortunately the cart is revision 002 so I'd have to update to 4.1.0 just to play it. In the end, I updated my switch since it was confirmed that atmosphere will work on all firmwares. Now I'm on the latest firmware since I also ended up buying the DLCs for the game. I'm on autoRCM and my phone supports USB OTG so all is well.

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  5. Draxzelex

    Draxzelex GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    The only reason you would remain on 4.1 at this point is you don't want to use a jig and USB cable to boot hacks onto your Switch or you don't want to keep it in sleep mode 24/7. 4.1 may see a web-based softmod warmboot in the future.
     
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  6. Zumoly

    Zumoly GBATemp Analyst

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    I'd avoid autoRCM for now until the battery issue gets fixedd (apparently the battery not charging in RCM is caused by it as per @CTCaer's experiment).
    I just hacked my right joycon and use my phone to boot Hekate for now.
     
  7. horokeusama

    horokeusama GBAtemp Regular

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    This is basically me, to the point I thought this post was mine lol
     
  8. annson24

    annson24 The Patient One

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    Uhhh...I think you have your informations wrong. Battery not charging is only in recovery mode (RCM) but once you're in the horizon, even during sleep mode, you can charge normally.

    Unless you usually leave your switch powered off, then yeah, avoid autoRCM as you might accidentally enter RCM when you charge.

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  9. Zumoly

    Zumoly GBATemp Analyst

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    Battery does charge in normal RCM. It doesn't with AutoRCM has this payload corrupts some system files.
    I'm talking about the risk of completely depleting your battery in AutoRCM if trickle (fail-safe to prevent battery from dying) charging fails.
     
  10. Fuk

    Fuk Newbie

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    Well warmboot requires much more time than just using a dongle, so I wouldn't mind too much losing it. What bugs me is the lack of emunand for tx os.
    Personally, I will update before usign tx os ( I'm on 3.0.1 and I want to play newer games) to 5.1 , make a nandbackup and when tx will add emunand support I'll just transfer my saves from sysnand to emunand and restore the first to that 5.1 clean backup.
     
  11. cracker

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    I bit the bullet and went to 5.1.0 last night, as I had pre-ordered SX OS the day before. I decided to do it since there will really be no downside — just in case the Big N releases an update that will take a while for TX to update the CFW offsets/obfuscation/etc.
     
  12. Red1Reaper

    Red1Reaper Asperger Dude

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    You can also put a modchip that is basically a internal dongle to autinject payloads and mix it whit autoRCM, rebug team is creating a modchip.
     
  13. frankGT

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    Just updated my 4.0.1 to 5.1.0... how i rationalized it:

    -SX OS and Atmosphere work on 5.1
    -Next update might target SX OS and Atmosphere
    -exFAT driver without risks
    -Ready to all the present and some future games while emunand isnt a thing
    -Latest and greatest software for my hardware (joycons included)

    Sleep mode ftw. :yay:
     
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  14. annson24

    annson24 The Patient One

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    I've been using AutoRCM since the day sleep mode was fixed in hekate. Haven't had any issues with it. And I definitely haven't heard of this issue you're talking about which involves AutoRCM but not normal RCM.

    It doesn't charge in RCM (period). It doesn't matter if it's normal or it's auto. It just doesn't charge when you're in it. It, however, will still charge normally if you're on horizon or your swich is completely turned off.

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  15. Draxzelex

    Draxzelex GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    It can charge in RCM but only if the BCT is intact aka if you don't have AutoRCM.

    Proof:
     
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  16. CaptainLoozer

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    Negative. If you ordered SX Pro, you will NOT get a code by email. The license is already active on the dongle and you will have to wait until you physically get it in the mail. Only customers who ordered SX OS will get license codes.
     
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  17. MattKimura

    MattKimura 3DS & WiiU Enthusiast

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    I see a problem with that. What if the dongle becomes lost. Does that mean SX-OS is gone with it?
     
  18. CaptainLoozer

    CaptainLoozer GBAtemp Regular

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    Yes, that would be the case, unfortunately.

    The only way I could see being able to recover is if somehow you were able to extract the license code from the dongle. The OS, I assume, would be easily downloaded on their site. If you could extract the code, you could just use the OS stand alone with your own hardware I'd imagine, since you would be using it with the same switch.
     
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  19. MattKimura

    MattKimura 3DS & WiiU Enthusiast

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    That's a deal breaker for me. Why would they market it in a way that the SX-OS license is actually better. I wouldn't want SX-OS to disappear forever just because I lose the dongle. I wanted their jig more than anything tbh. I'm really disappointed, glad I didnt get to place an order yet. I'll save myself some money and get it sooner.
     
  20. CaptainLoozer

    CaptainLoozer GBAtemp Regular

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    Honestly I think the general consensus is that most people will switch to atmosphere as soon as it's ready with a good homebrew XCI loader. To that end, having the dongle would still prove to be useful since you can use any payload you want.
     
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